cinema cinema:english cinema:tamil Essay



Well, almost the same. An essay.

“The mind sees what it wants to see”

The Da Vinci Code, 2006

The choice of opening quote from the Da Vinci Code might put you into a lot of worry, I know, but I simply love that movie. Nevertheless the movie has this brilliant quote which is so close to what I am trying to do here.

When you keep seeing a lot of movies, ok let me refine that, when you keep seeing a lot of movies, a lot of times; things just strike you, you begin to see things that you wouldn’t have cared about during your first viewing, you start to make assumptions based on thin connections, this article is a voice of all that goes into a head which makes these connections.

It could be frivolous to many who have reached this page, and this is what that gives me the nervousness.

Nevertheless, I begin.

Sometime after Inception was released, there was a Disney comic that was doing the rounds, written of course years and years ago which had the exact structure as that of Inception (A dream within a dream within a dream), we can hardly accuse Christopher Nolan of theft, but the interesting point here is the similarities in structure and how some things are quite universal.

Let’s now get to the wonderful police film Kuruthipunal, released in 1995 is actually based on a Govind Nihlani film Drohkaal which was released the previous year.

Then why doesn’t your article cite Drohkaal? You are bound to ask, I’ll come to that in a bit.

The starting point is of these kind of these connections are of course the interrogation scenes from Kuruthipunal.



The above subtitle would have been a better title for this whole piece, because that is what these two movies are essentially about. Two men; one with an ideology (Badri-Nasser) and another seemingly without (The Joker- Heath Ledger) make up the main antagonists, so critical to both the films

While the joker constantly plays on the subject fear and loss, not only on the main characters of the film, but also on the inhabitants of the city; similarly do Badri and his gang unleash terror on the common public and the honest police officers.

Interestingly both movies begin with an incident involving a school bus.

Well, all this too generic to see, every terrorist group will aim to do just that.

But Wait.

In the Dark Knight, the token of Harvey Dent is a coin, he keeps referring it to as chance- the fairest of all things in the world, but just look at it from here, a flip of a coin can indicate many things and among them is the change of sides.


The Joker keeps referring to himself and the Batman are one and the same, just on different sides, he also strangely says that he is able to understand the freakiness that is the Batman character and that Batman would do better on his side.

This is again exactly what Badri says to Adi (Kamal Haasan), but here it is not the freakiness that is in question, but honesty.

Both films have characters that have been lured by the tricks of the antagonist and cross over to the other side, Harvey Dent even asks “why me?”, but it was the Joker’s trick with everyone, only Harvey was not as strong as he seemed to be, similarly the case with Adi who accepts to become a terrorist informer for the sake of his family and friends.

Shake your belief to an extent that you topple and fall from grace, the death of Harvey Dent had far reaching consequences including a major cover up, similarly in Kuruthipunal, Kamal makes a last ditch attempt at honour even when fully realising that he can live no more without his honesty.

Thematically these movies are so similar because of the below: fear and faith, and most of the conversations in Kuruthipunal are about the same, while only the scale of events are different.

In the Dark Knight, as with most Batman lore is about the city, while Kuruthipunal is interestingly anonymous about the whole setting of the movie, there are few references to other places in the country, but invariably the setting seems anonymous, to imply what I believe is the universality of terror.

The terror groups in the film also represent the threat of the times in the south, although that could be reading into it too deeply.

Something which Kamal again touches upon in Unnai Pol Oruvan (again a remake, improved if I might add)


The Dark Knight has three pivot characters around which the Joker operates, the Batman: The Dark Knight who as we know has many issues including one childhood girlfriend, Harvey Dent: The White Knight who also has girlfriend issue and then there is Commissioner Gordon who fears for the life of his family.

Ok, Kuruthipunal too has three central characters whose life is turned upside down by Badri, DCPs Adi and Abbas and Commissioner Sreenivasan (Director K Vishwanath). The transformations that these characters undergo because of the activities of the antagonist are what I think the most common element amongst them.

There can be no private life of a public protector

The Dark Knight however has this advantage of having a symbol that is incorruptible and hope giving, while Kuruthipunal and Drohkaal manage to bring the same story out with real life characters as opposed to comic book heroes.

That brings us to Drohkaal and why Kuruthipunal is more closer to the Dark Knight than its predecessor, on casual viewing you can say that Kuruthipunal is really better made, there are so many things that are added to the Tamil version that is not there in the Nihlani film, like for example extending the role of Abbas (Arjun) and involved action sequence on the platforms of the dimly lit Egmore Station, which still remains as chilling as I saw it the first time, cinematic differences aside which are many and bound to be when a film is being helmed by one Mr PC Sreeram, the structural similarities between the Dark Knight and Kuruthipunal is only heightened because the screenplay and dialogues (John and Kamal Haasan), because only through dialogue character motivations are completely brought out.

Drohkaal on the other hand brings it down to a more corrupt police vs good police generic concept.  But there is no denying what Kuruthipunal owes Drohkaal, the basic story.

While Kuruthipunal makes it a clash of cultures and ideologies as shown through the conversations between Kamal and Nasser, and this is what the Dark Knight tries to achieve by letting off the Joker against the Batman.

Both scenarios end with a sacrifice.


All this analysis is for what? Any movie can be compared to anyone and with a convincing writer, connections can be established.

I am hardly a convincing writer and this is not a post of revelation, it is just a thought that has been doing the rounds for quite some time in my head, to look at the ideas that make these films as one fluid entity and that may be the reason for the similarities, ideas that flow from one person to another. But the explanations might be even simpler for this, a common movie that has inspired these both, putting this entire post to waste bin. But that is a risk I am willing to take.

I have always seen Nolan’s Batman films as police films that comment on terrorism and maybe that is also one of the reasons for this post.

The stories of both progress differently, Kuruthipunal with a strong grounding towards the families of the policemen involved, while it is only a sub-element in the Dark Knight.

The relationship between the three characters in both the movies oscillates between absolute trust and just working relationships which as mentioned before is exploited by the villain.

Did not want to put this up as points and reduce it to a scoop whoop/buzzfeed release, because this is more involved and needs more discussion. Both are great movies even without these similarities: taut and exciting thrillers which deliver one good scene after the other.

Both films are elevated to a different level by their villains, although Heath Ledger has been lauded posthumously, Nasser’s chilling portrayal towering over the leads and that to in a Kamal film has sadly been forgotten, like most of his roles.

Interestingly Ashish Vidyarthi whose role Nasser assumed for the Tamil version won a National Award.

Kuruthipunal and not Drohkaal was India’s official entry to the Oscars in corresponding year, while the Dark Knight was nominated for every other major category except Best Film, which it would have, had it not been a super hero film.

PC Sreeram has just made one film after Kuruthipunal as director; Nolan came to the theatres with yet another terrorist film called the Dark Knight Rises.

It is also interesting to note that Kuruthipunal begins with a phrase that contains the word Kuruthipunal which translates to River of Blood, while the Dark Knight literally ends with the words: the Dark Knight.


The title of this post, if you haven’t figured out is a direct reference to another Kamal film called Anbe Sivam

This post also marks 20 years since the release of Kuruthipunal.


Thank you for reading.

10 replies on “IT’S THE SAME THING, MR SIVAM!”

Location: although the film is ambiguous about location, we do see an Andhra map in the police discussion rooms. Appropriate, considering the Naxal movement there (it is Drohkaal which is unrooted)

So, you are not reading too deeply on that account, the People’s War Group was quite an organization there in the 80s/90s.

I disagree quite a bit on the DarkKnight-KP parallels though

//similarly do Badri and his gang unleash terror on the common public and the honest police officers.//

Not at all.
Badri and gang are ideologically driven (கலாசார பலம்!) and are particular about not hurting the general public. It is vital to note how NizhalgaL Ravi rues the bomb that kills the kids – which is not what he intended. The ‘honesty’ of the police is an honesty that serves the capitalist system (உன் முதலாளிங்க) that, they believe, perpetuates an exploitative system that calls for armed resistance (உனக்கு training குடுத்த அதே அரசாங்கம் தான்…)

It is very important to see that Badri’s group is anything but // every terrorist group will aim to do just that//

What is of interest is the limits of: what is permissible for the ‘greater common good’. Operation Dhanush is ‘off record’. And Adi tells the boys that, in order to gain the faith of the terrorists you may have to kill cops too. (நம்ம ஆளுங்களயே).

What is the ideological basis of the cop then? Particularly when he admits எனக்கும் சமுதாயக் கோவங்கள் உண்டு? Is it a commitment to the democratic means, as the ONLY way of solution. That’s as far as KP seems to go.

In KP, Adi’s human vulnerability is exploited, but the attempts to render vulnerable the batman, by making him expose himself.

So, in essence the ‘fear and faith’ while seemingly comparable thematically in both movies are quite different (I contend): a fear in repurcussions for the city if one humanizes a symbol vs. fear for one’s family’s safety.

PS: UPO is not an improved remake. A royal botch, as opposed to KP which is a HUGE improvement. Some thoughts here


எனக்கும் சமுதாயக் கோவங்கள் உண்டு, but that is to the effect of what channel one chooses. Adi chooses the way of the government while Badri the one of the outlaw, similarly pre-adult issues make Batman and Joker, how they are now, Joker and Badri realise this, that both of them are in fact the same, only working for a same ’cause’ under a different ideology.
Badri group and its constituents also looked closely like the LTTE activities of the time, that may also be the reason for the supposed anonymity, or it could be because of the simple reason of bilingual sale-ability.
The whole point behind the post here is to not compare character profiles individually, but to put these characters in the same position is what that struck me, maybe that is where i failed in trying to write them down.
For example there is no direct equivalent to the Harvey Dent character, sometime it is Sreenivasan, sometime it is Adi, the point is not to find equivalents, the point was to make that how similarly themed movies end up similarly.
It is also only Nizhalgal Ravi and other minions who is seen crying on the mishap, never is Badri seen caring about the same. In TDk Joker ofcourse recruits only psychos like him.
There are enough photos from TIME magazine to show that have been in the background of numerous terror activities.
Both group try assassinations on public officials.
As i said, it is not for incidental similarities that i was looking for, which are there in plenty, but the structural.
KP goes more than that, why does one become a cop and why does one become a criminal. The presence of a near mythical Batman in the TDK probably has made it difficult to read both the movies together.
Apart from missing out the Andhra map, which i should have seen, i think my reading is quite good, try watching them back to back.
I didn’t.


1.looks like obviously you dont know hindi as u have waterdowned droohkaal to good guus vs bad guys

2.U r a die hard kamal fan not only have u given all the credits of govind nihalani to a guy who made that movie into a super hero tale you are now tieing that to christopher nolan.Amazing.

I advise you to watch the entire work of govind nihalai.understand the naxal movement in india.Maybe watch droohkaal again with better subtitles.


Yes you are right in saying im not familiar with nihalani and hindi, will catch up on his work, yes it may seem that i have watered down drohkaal but the thing that i wanted to convey is the similarities in structure between the dark knight and KP. There is a big gap in my analysis which i have realised, thanks for reading up on the old posts, this was hypothesis based driving.


I had my time to watch The Dark Knight today – 30 june 2017 – almost a decade after its release. Easier said, i couldn’t find time, but it doesn’t mean i haven’t watched any movies in past 10 years. But that doesn’t matter at all now.
Point is, watching it for the first time, and just half way the movie, my mind was taken over to “Kurudhipunal” movie, and all the scenes which had catapulted The Dark Knight to its success is merely due to the game it plays on human emotions, including fear of survival and its due actions and reactions. Joker plays on it, the people in the cruise reacts to it one way and Dent reacts the other way. the whole setup looked to me as the rephrased version of Kurudhipunal where Joker resembles Nasser and Batman is Kamalhassan, Dent is Director Viswanath and Gordon is Arjun. Joker talks about survival is the key and everyone bends on to it.
After watching i just typed in google – Dark Knight inspired from Kurudhipunal – and Lo, am happy am not the only one who thought it that way, and you’ve already made a blog 2 years back. very happy to see your blog and s0 sitting and replying you at 3 am…
Will follow you, as i am happy there is another person who has thought in same lines.


When Kurudhipunal was being played in Devi Theatre Chennai, a Tamil weekly magazine that I read said, Kurudhipunal was a copy of a Hollywood movie and added that the said English movie was being played at the same time as Kurudhipunal in Casino Theatre Chennai. I rushed to Casino and watched that movie and I ruled that Kurudhipunal was completely different. I forgot the name of the English movie. Did anyone hear what I read in that magazine? Do you happen to know the title?


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